The Official Firearms Thread

Batmobile_Engage

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Hi, I have only held a Mini-14 at the NRA convention in Pitt. I thought it felt very easy to aim and very natural to find the target. What's your experience? I got a Stag AR-15, which I like for the capacity, but wondered at times if I should have gotten a mini instead...

I love all things Ruger, but not all Mini-14s are created equal. I do agree though, they handle very nicely, are quick to find a natural point of aim and are relatively light and balanced. I'm a huge fan of the M-14 Battle Rifle which I carried as a sentry in the Navy a number of years ago, so I especially appreciate the design and looks on the Mini.

A well made AR-15 will operate just as well, but I'd venture to say that on average, you will likely experience fewer malfunctions with the Mini-14 especially when both rifles are dirty. Mini's come in a few different calibers. .223 Remington ONLY for the target model. 6.8mm SPC on a FEW special models (they don't produce these anymore but they can still be found on the market). .223 REM & 5.56x45mm NATO for all other Mini-14's and last but not least, 7.62x39mm for the Mini-30.

The barrels and receivers are the main differences on the Mini-14 between certain year/series groups. Pre-180 and 180 series models are pretty old school (1977 and before). 181-186 series are probably the most common right now (1978-1999).

In 2000, they started the 196 series which includes integrated scope bases in the top of the receiver. These are what most consider the "True Ranch Rifle" models. If you buy a Mini-14, I would HIGHLY suggest one of these ranch rifle models with the integrated bases, as scope mounting options on non-Ranch models leave a lot to be desired. ("Ranch Rifle" was stamped on the receiver starting in 1982 but this model only offered a side mounted scope base, which most of us Mini owners consider to be terrible at best. When people refer to the Ranch Rifle models, they most often are referring to the models with integrated scope bases on the receiver.)

Many aftermarket barrel shrouds have a picatinny rail integrated into the barrel shroud material. These are designed for a "scout scope" or red dot configuration with optics that offer long eye relief for quick target acquisition.

The "NEW Mini-14 Ranch Rifle" models 580 Series (2005-2009) have the integrated scope bases on the receiver but also have a heavier, tapered barrel which is far more accurate than the old "pencil barrel" models. You can see the taper on the barrel from the gas block forward to the muzzle. The old "pencil barrels" would sway ever so slightly during firing which reduced accuracy. Once you really heat the barrel up the sway gets worse and grouping capabilities suffer. Barrel sway can be seen in high speed video recordings on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqgPu9gSmVc

Previously, people would install a barrel stabilizer which would cut grouping size in half by controlling sway and leaching heat out of the barrel. Not only do they work, but they also make the gun appear more like it's parents the, M-14 and M1A. People still do utilize barrel stabilizers on the tapered barrels, but this isn't quite as necessary unless you want to decapitate prairie dogs at a distance. :lol: 580 series and up also have the best iron sights IMO.

Most models come with an 18.5" barrel. The Target Model has a heavier 22" barrel. The way the rifling and leade is cut, is the reason .223 Remington is the only cartridge this model should fire; 5.56x45mm produces pressures that are too high for this rifling/leade cut. All other models will happily digest .223 REM and 5.56x45mm NATO alike. The Tactical Model has a 16.12" barrel and a bird cage flash suppressor. The GB Models (Government Bayonet), which are pretty hard to find, have a flash suppressor and a bayonet lug.

Capacity doesn't seem to be a problem. Ruger produces factory magazines in 5, 10, 20, 30 and 40 round capacities. Many other companies like ProMag and TAPCO to name a couple, produce decent mags for the Mini. A couple manufactures even produce a 90 round drum though I can't say I trust their operability.

Lots of stocks are produced for the Minis; wood, synthetic and synthetic-tactical (collapsible, folding, etc.). ATI, TAPCO and Hogue are the most common.

The only thing I would change about the Mini-14 is a slight adjustment in the scope bases. I would like them to be lower, allowing for a see-thru picatinny riser or see-thru scope rings to be installed. This would allow the factory iron sights, which are quite low, to be utilized even in the presence of a scope. I'm still investigating possible options for this capability.

I've got a 1994, 186 Series Mini-14 with the wood stock and a 2013, 582 Series Mini-14 Tactical with a wood stock and two ATI synthetic, folding and collapsable stocks. If you click back to PAGE 19, Post #188, you'll see my 186 Series Mini with one of the ATI stocks pictured (home made custom paint job).

Hmmm....I wonder if I covered everything. :lol:
 
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Batmobile_Engage

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Wow, thanks. Would you like to be guest reviewer on my client's website? I'd have to clean up the language a tiny bit :) it is a family friendly site :)
But this is great info.
I could if you would like me to. I can keep it clean. :lol: Hopefully I'm 100% accurate on all those numbers. I could be a bit off on the years listed for model changes.

I love Ruger, so I may be a little biased.

EDIT: I cleaned up the language a bit and added a few points about optics mounting.
 
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IGOTASTi

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Sweet review [MENTION=662]Batmobile_Engage[/MENTION]. ?
 

Batmobile_Engage

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The Accu-Strut SOCOM I ordered came in the mail today. I quickly got it installed and love the way it looks even more like an M-14/M1A now.

I hope to see some impressive grouping out to 300 yards.
 

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Batmobile_Engage

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I need to get it sighted in over Christmas time so I can take it coyote hunting in January. I'd love to dust a coyote at over 200 yards with it!
 

Batmobile_Engage

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no real american car forum without a gun thread...that?s one point why the rest of the world sometimes is unable to understand the americans
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Batmobile_Engage

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How many rounds can you count on the paper?

I put an entire 50 round box through the target.

Looks like I've still got it. ;-)

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Batmobile_Engage

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Picking up one of these today for this year's fast approaching deer season! I'm getting a GREAT DEAL at $229, lightly used EXCELLENT CONDITION.

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The freezer is completely out of deer meat and that puts me in a particularly foul, carnivorous mood. :twisted:
Hopefully I'll get drawn for a doe tag this year, increasing my chances of filling the freezer.
 
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Batmobile_Engage

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Here's the newest addition to the family.


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Connecticut Valley Arms - Optima (.50 Caliber) with synthetic thumbhole stock, nickel plated stainless steel fluted barrel and Konus 3-9x 40mm scope.
 
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Batmobile_Engage

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In search of a subcompact 9mm pistol. Who's got one, what is it and what do you like about it? I'll probably go shopping this weekend.
 

Batmobile_Engage

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^ No one? Oh well.

Unless something changes, I will be picking up a Glock 43, new in box, with two magazines and factory night sights for $495!
 

Batmobile_Engage

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I got it from this guy that has his own gun sales business but doesn't have a physical location or employees. This keeps his overhead costs down so he can offer steeply discounted prices. MSRP is generally $550 for standard sights and $595 for the night sights.

I got the night sighted version with two factory six round mags, new in the box for $500 even.

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IGOTASTi

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WOW! Does he sell online?

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