New member; not new to Subarus

zax

New member
Hello all! I thought I'd join IGOTASTi to branch out and meet other enthusiasts. Some of you may know me through other communities. I have a 2015 CWP WRX STi and a 2003 Bugeye wagon (for the time being):

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My wife and I picking up the car from NJ about 3 weeks ago:

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Nice shine and new car smell!

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I plan to keep this car fairly stock until the car has been paid-off.
 

IGOTASTi

System Operator
Staff member
[MENTION=3516]zax[/MENTION] welcome to the team!

#2015STi
 

zax

New member
@zax welcome to the team!

#2015STi

Thanks bud!

Welcome!So how do you like the 15? Which one do you drive daily?

The 2015 STi will be my daily driver. I have a buyer for the Bugeye and the transaction will hopefully take place in August. I know it's a big uncouth to link in other forums, but this is the easiest way to show what's been done to the 2003:

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/build...haggin-wagon-build-thread-12.html#post2891193

After the 2015 is paid-off, I'll pick up something a little more economical and the car will become my tinker toy.
 

Alin

Diehard Car Enthusiast!
Welcome to IGOTASTI!!! :tup:

Looks awesome in white!
 

ZachTTLM

New member
Welcome to the group, we love white cars they always look so clean!
 

WesternSTi

The Music Man
Welcome to the forum! Have you driven the GR/GV Chassis by chance? If so, how does this one compare? I look forward to seeing you and that beautiful '15 around the forum. By the way, has anyone come up with a nickname, like blobeye, hawkeye, angeleye, etc? And what's the chassis designation?
 

zax

New member
Welcome to the forum! Have you driven the GR/GV Chassis by chance? If so, how does this one compare? I look forward to seeing you and that beautiful '15 around the forum. By the way, has anyone come up with a nickname, like blobeye, hawkeye, angeleye, etc? And what's the chassis designation?

Why yes I have! I have driven the following STis: 2x 2004, 2x2005, 2x2007, 2008, 2x2011 (hatch and wagon), and a 2012. For the record, I have also driven a few Evo Xs, Lancer Ralliart, and an Evo IX. When I picked up my STi, I had the pleasure of driving a new 2015 WRX back-to-back with the STi. I will copy and paste from another forum:

OK, so as many of you know, I've been a little disappointed with the capabilities of the "performance Subarus" over the last several years. While the GD WRX and WRX STi filled a white space in the market that was not yet occupied in the USDM, GR WRXs and STis left a lot to be desired, particularly in the fit-and-finish and cornering department. Compared to the competition, WRXs and STis handled like pickup trucks, and sounded like them too! The realization came in 2010 when my wife and I bought a 2008 MazdaSpeed3. Compared to the WRXs and STis of the time, the MS3 (despite the smaller motor) produced a lot more torque and felt more planted and rigid in the corners. Then, in 2011, I drove my first Lancer Evolution X. Compared to the WRX, the Evo was an instrument capable of slicing through corners with the utmost precision. As you forum veterans know: I swore I would never buy another performance Subaru. Then the impossible happened: Subaru LISTENED to the complaints and built a car to end all cars. So here I am, the proud owner of a 2015 WRX STi, and considering I have driven the competition, it is quite a statement when I say that the 2015 WRX STi is the best car in its segment. Allow me to provide my review.


2015 WRX STi:

Cornering/Handling:

Pulling out of the parking lot, it was immediately evident the car had been completely overhauled. Gone was the numb and sloppy feeling of the GRs. Yet, despite the lack of sloppiness, the 2015 does not retain the jarring ride of the GD WRX STi. If there is one word I would use to describe the 2015 WRX STi, that word would be "tight." The steering is tight and responsive, the chassis rigid as can be. Literally everything about the car is tighter and more composed than the last generation STi. What is most interesting to me is that Subaru has managed to keep the best of both the GD and GR chassis while eliminating the pitfalls. The 2015 STi rides smoothly but does not have the spongy feeling that plagued the GR STi. In short, the 2015 STi reminds me of a GR STi with all conceivable driveline and suspension bushings upgraded. If I were to compare the 2015 STi with the Evo X, I would say that the cornering is very close. It is difficult to make the judgement because I have not driven either car in anger, but the 2015 is impressive. Compared to the WRX, the STi feels a bit more planted, but honestly it's very close. I drove the 2015 WRX back-to-back with the 2015 STi and the WRX is an impressive performer. The steering in the WRX is very good, especially considering the rack is EPAS, though it doesn't quite topple the STi in precision. In the cornering department, the WRX is incredible. When compared to the GR STi, the new 2015 WRX feels FAR more planted. During the test drive, I was able to drive both cars over an off-camber corner with a rough patch of pavement. The WRX was a little unsettled over the rough patch (but maintained traction) while the STi remained completely composed. It is evident that though the electronic traction control does its job adequately, it just can't beat out the true limited slip differentials in the STi. Both very impressive performers; points to Subaru here.

Motor
Nothing to see here; move along. Yes the STi retains the EJ motor. Yes the motor belongs in a tractor. It's still rough, still uncivilized, and vibrates like a cement mixer off-idle. I don't have a lot of nice things to say about the EJ motor, but it does have a very nice powerband and feels linear like a NA motor. I forgot how much more off-boost drivability the EJ257 lends compared to the familiar EJ205. Yet the EJ257 isn't too torquey like the 2.3L in the MS3. I think it's really just the right amount of torque low in the rev range. I can't comment on the tune of the car since I have yet to surpass the break-in period, but the tune feels quite good for regular drivability. Compared to FA20 in the 2015 WRX, the EJ257 is ancient and feels it!! Words cannot describe how truly impressive the FA20 in the WRX feels to drive. For starters, the FA20 does not feel like it belongs in a tractor (EJ257 clearly does). Under 2000 RPM, the EJ257 is easier to drive with a bit more torque. However, as soon as the tachometer needles passes 2000 rpm, the motor lights up. Boost comes on early and the motor is smooth. My god is the motor smooth. However, I cannot speak kindly about the boost control on the FA20. As boost builds, the car shakes and stutters. Remember those dynographs posted comparing the WRX and WRX STi? Remember how wild the torque curve looked on the WRX? It feels 100x as wild to drive. I am confident that this will be resolved with a 3-port and good boost mapping. Then, we will truly see what the FA20 can do!

Interior
Wow. Such interior. Much nice material. Very comfy. Wow.
It's no S4, but the interior in the new STi is very close to the quality of the interior in the Golf R. It is an AMAZING improvement over the last generation, particularly in the STi. The base model WRX, lacking the seats or the center console in the STi, is a bit under-equipped. However, at $25k, it's hard to complain when you recognize what else you get for the money. I cannot comment on the interior of the STi limited or WRX limited since I did not drive either car, but it is nice to have the amenities in the base STi. Heated seats (wifey loves these), LED headlights, dual climate control, and alcantara really bring the cabin together. The faux carbon-fiber trim isn't overstated as I had expected. The center console in the STi is a bit nicer than the WRX and houses the SI drive toggle and DCCD switches. The seats in the STi are a bit more comfy and bolstered than the seats in the WRX. Alcantara and leather bolsters are a great combination: a combination to which I have become accustomed in the MS3. As far as the stereo is concerned, I did not find the audio as horrendous as the recent complaints suggest. While it's no where close to the Bose system in our MS3, it isn't half bad and much improved over the last generation WRX/STi. Compared to the Evo X, the STi blows the doors off its principle competitor in the interior department. No question.
 

Alin

Diehard Car Enthusiast!
Wow... Reading that review, I don't think I should ever sit down in a 2015.... Cause I might get rid of my 04! :lol:

That's really awesome in Subaru's case if the car was overhauled that well in comparison to the GR and GV.
[MENTION=3129]WesternSTi[/MENTION] The chassis code is VA as far as I know. Nothing else has come up besides that keyword for it thus far. [MENTION=3516]zax[/MENTION] What is the nickname of the 15's going to be, as WesternSTi asked?
 

WesternSTi

The Music Man
Oh god. I thought my GV handled great, but the way you describe it, I concur with [MENTION=1172]Alin[/MENTION]. Maybe I shouldn't test drive it so I don't just automatically trade my '13 STi in.
 

zax

New member
To be honest, I would suggest waiting a few years. Hopefully Subaru will shoehorn the FA20 into the STi by 2017.

Having driven the WRX and STi back-to-back, I will openly tell you that the FA20 is the motor to have. Smoother, responds better to mods, more economical, etc. The STi is missing that critical component right now. It's 90% perfect. Would be 100% perfect if it had the FA20. If you presented me with the option of taking my STi with the EJ257 and 305hp or the FA20 with 268hp, I would gladly take the latter. Hell, I'll go as far to say that I'd pay MORE for the lower-power option. I'm not suggesting that an FA20 in the STi would return 28mpg... no, the driveline and diffs definitely sap economy. But 20-21 mpg combined might be nice.

On a different note, mark my words: the next generation STi (if one is commissioned), will NOT feature a 2.5L motor. Everyone has a hard-on for this mythical FA25DIT, though I doubt such a motor will ever be built. STi's new-age competition have all standardized on a 2.0L: Golf R, A45 AMG, Ford Focus ST, etc. Furthermore, by standardizing the FA20 globally, Subaru cuts down on R&D and operational costs, and will be using the FA20 in the GRC car, SWRT, etc. No more need to switch to the EJ20 for competition. Again, it's all speculation, but I think a 320hp FA20 with decent economy would be a welcome addition to the STi, and I will buy one when it is released.
 

HolyCrapItsFast

Drinks beer!
Why yes I have! I have driven the following STis: 2x 2004, 2x2005, 2x2007, 2008, 2x2011 (hatch and wagon), and a 2012. For the record, I have also driven a few Evo Xs, Lancer Ralliart, and an Evo IX. When I picked up my STi, I had the pleasure of driving a new 2015 WRX back-to-back with the STi. I will copy and paste from another forum:

Thank you for the writeup. Some very informative info hear! :tup:
 
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