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    Is This Setup Good?

    Seems i've been around the world and back with car. Not the place to tell the story but the moral of my story is always do a Pre-Purchase Inspection on a Subie. Secondly, I'm once again looking to get my STI on the right track but I'm waiting for my insurance claim to clear. Once that happens I'll have a stock engine again. My question for today and I'm wondering if this setup makes sense? Once I get the stock engine back in, I'm only going to change out the dp for a catless bellmouth and ELH. I'm not putting the Cobb air intake or the Grimmspeed EBC back on, both of which were in my previous setup. First I hope this is in the correct forum, if not please redirect. So going to have the car tuned to the catless dp and ELH. Is this ok, smart or dumb?

    I did see another post where @HolyCrapItsFast says he believes the stock intake is good enough and watching some cheesy old videos of the early EVO's vs the GC8 and Bugeye's, they were all stock and the commentator was talking about how you don't really need to modify these cars but people do. With the ELH, I want to give the car longevity. I know you can still get ringland w/them but I won't be driving like that or tracking the car. The catless dp is so the engine breathes better. I'd rather have reliability over performance. My engine troubles were caused by the oil pickup being cracked. Car had been in Subaru on 4 occasions and they never diagnosed it as that and one of the times in it was in there for a blown turbo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimoblivion View Post
    Seems i've been around the world and back with car. Not the place to tell the story but the moral of my story is always do a Pre-Purchase Inspection on a Subie. Secondly, I'm once again looking to get my STI on the right track but I'm waiting for my insurance claim to clear. Once that happens I'll have a stock engine again. My question for today and I'm wondering if this setup makes sense? Once I get the stock engine back in, I'm only going to change out the dp for a catless bellmouth and ELH. I'm not putting the Cobb air intake or the Grimmspeed EBC back on, both of which were in my previous setup. First I hope this is in the correct forum, if not please redirect. So going to have the car tuned to the catless dp and ELH. Is this ok, smart or dumb?

    I did see another post where @HolyCrapItsFast says he believes the stock intake is good enough and watching some cheesy old videos of the early EVO's vs the GC8 and Bugeye's, they were all stock and the commentator was talking about how you don't really need to modify these cars but people do. With the ELH, I want to give the car longevity. I know you can still get ringland w/them but I won't be driving like that or tracking the car. The catless dp is so the engine breathes better. I'd rather have reliability over performance. My engine troubles were caused by the oil pickup being cracked. Car had been in Subaru on 4 occasions and they never diagnosed it as that and one of the times in it was in there for a blown turbo.
    1) I like ELH, but some people dont--they say it ruins the boxer rumble.
    2) As for the intake, you dont really need it, especially if everything else is stock, but why not?
    3) The EBC is probably better than the stock 2-port, I'd leave that in for better control.
    4) Catless DP is a good way to go. If you're doing the Cobb one, know that it's not a true 3" and will be a bottleneck down the line if you try to do a full exhaust system.

    None of the items are related to the oil pickup though, that's just bad luck!


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    On a quest of STi erudition! Alin's Avatar

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    I'm not certain how this platform performs on the stock EBCS combined with a catless downpipe, but everywhere I've looked, I've seen either the GS or the Cobb 3 port EBCS used for better control. It may be possible that the car would still overboost. In regards to the ELH, I don't have any experience or knowledge on the subject as I've never researched nor really cared about it. At one point, I decided that I would be an UEL boxer rumble kind of guy. You'll have to do some more research and wait for others to respond.

    The stock intake is indeed good for around roughly 400HP. The only time you'd truly need to upgrade, is when you get a bigger turbo that requires more air to be sucked in. However with that being said, the Cobb SFI has a honeycomb flow straightener inside that helps even out airflow. The Cobb SFI is one of the best options if you were to upgrade over the stock intake. @HolyCrapItsFast has all of the knowledge and information on pretty much all aspects.



    "This system utilizes several unique features in an effort to maintain optimal flow for performance while minimizing turbulence that can cause engine management problems. From a custom conical cloth air-filter element, we use a CFD-designed velocity stack leading to an unique air flow straightener grid. This straightener grid is specifically designed to smooth the incoming air flow as it passes the Mass Air Flow sensor for precise readings. This eliminates the "dead spots" experienced by other aftermarket intakes due to turbulence. No other aftermarket Subaru intake system utilizes these critical design elements."




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    It doesn't have to have a nut on the outside. Many are short, but I often try to find long ones that sometimes have a bend in them.

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    1) As much as I love the rumble, it doesn't bother me that it'd be gone.
    2)I do have the Cobb SFI, but if its no benefit. Save a couple hundred bucks. I'm not going to try to hit 400whp or anything like that.
    3)Thanks for everyone's in put, I'll keep the GS EBCS on.
    4)I have a Megan Racing 3" DP raring to go
    5)So no one thinks I need to get the Killer B pickup so I don't have this issue again?
    6)I may rethink #2 and just put it on, I do have it already?


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    On a quest of STi erudition! Alin's Avatar

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    I mean, you have the Cobb SFI already, and it does have an advantage, so why not use it?

    Regarding the oil pick up tube, you can't go wrong with Killer B, but there is also Moroso as another option. I've been fortunate that my car has performed as intended, but if I were in your shoes with your past experience, I'd definitely get an oil pickup tube for peace of mind.


    Quote Originally Posted by Batmobile_Engage View Post
    It doesn't have to have a nut on the outside. Many are short, but I often try to find long ones that sometimes have a bend in them.

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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking about the pickup but wasn't sure if the killer b was overkill? I believe the cracked pickup was from the previous owner. I got the car w/24K on it and before the engine fiasco I have it up to 32k. This car has been in more shops and my garage than on the road.


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    On a quest of STi erudition! Alin's Avatar

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    When it comes to engine safety, reliability, and your mental well being, there is no such thing as overkill.


    Quote Originally Posted by Batmobile_Engage View Post
    It doesn't have to have a nut on the outside. Many are short, but I often try to find long ones that sometimes have a bend in them.

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    Any oil pickup will be better than stock--and even the stock one has been fine for 99% of the people.

    I'd get a new one, just because its relatively cheap. But its nothing you'll ever see again, and probably never have to think about it again, so just pick up one and be done with it!


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